Callicles: Certainly he has.
Socrates: If then there be anything which a man has and has not at the same time, clearly that cannot be good and evil—do we agree? Please not to answer without consideration.
Callicles: I entirely agree.
Socrates: Go back now to our former admissions.—Did you say that to hunger, I mean the mere state of hunger, was pleasant or painful?
Callicles: I said painful, but that to eat when you are hungry is pleasant.
Socrates: I know; but still the actual hunger is painful: am I not right?
Callicles: Yes.
Socrates: And thirst, too, is painful?
Callicles: Yes, very.
Socrates: Need I adduce any more instances, or would you agree that all wants or desires are painful?
Callicles: I agree, and therefore you need not adduce any more instances.
Socrates: Very good. And you would admit that to drink, when you are thirsty, is pleasant?
Callicles: Yes.
Socrates: And in the sentence which you have just uttered, the word “thirsty” implies pain?
Callicles: Yes.
Socrates: And the word “drinking” is expressive of pleasure, and of the satisfaction of the want?
Callicles: Yes.
Socrates: There is pleasure in drinking?
Callicles: Certainly.
Socrates: When you are thirsty?
Socrates: And in pain?
Callicles: Yes.
Socrates: Do you see the inference:—that pleasure and pain are simultaneous, when you say that being thirsty, you drink? For are they not simultaneous, and do they not affect at the same time the same part, whether of the soul or the body?—which of them is affected cannot be supposed to be of any consequence: Is not this true?
Callicles: It is.
Socrates: You said also, that no man could have good and evil fortune at the same time?