Protarchus: Most true.
Socrates: There is nothing envious or wrong in rejoicing at the misfortunes of enemies?
Protarchus: Certainly not.
Socrates: But to feel joy instead of sorrow at the sight of our friends’ misfortunes—is not that wrong?
Protarchus: Undoubtedly.
Socrates: Did we not say that ignorance was always an evil?
Protarchus: True.
Socrates: And the three kinds of vain conceit in our friends which we enumerated—the vain conceit of beauty, of wisdom, and of wealth, are ridiculous if they are weak, and detestable when they are powerful: May we not say, as I was saying before, that our friends who are in this state of mind, when harmless to others, are simply ridiculous?
Protarchus: They are ridiculous.
Socrates: And do we not acknowledge this ignorance of theirs to be a misfortune?
Protarchus: Certainly.
Socrates: And do we feel pain or pleasure in laughing at it?
Protarchus: Clearly we feel pleasure.
Socrates: And was not envy the source of this pleasure which we feel at the misfortunes of friends?
Protarchus: Certainly.
Socrates: Then the argument shows that when we laugh at the folly of our friends, pleasure, in mingling with envy, mingles with pain, for envy has been acknowledged by us to be mental pain, and laughter is pleasant; and so we envy and laugh at the same instant.
Protarchus: True.
Socrates: And the argument implies that there are combinations of pleasure and pain in lamentations, and in tragedy and comedy, not only on the stage, but on the greater stage of human life; and so in endless other cases.
Protarchus: I do not see how anyone can deny what you say, Socrates, however eager he may be to assert the opposite opinion.
Socrates: I mentioned anger, desire, sorrow, fear, love, emulation, envy, and similar emotions, as examples in which we should find a mixture of the two elements so often named; did I not?
Protarchus: Yes.
Socrates: We may observe that our conclusions hitherto have had reference only to sorrow and envy and anger.
Protarchus: I see.
Socrates: Then many other cases still remain?
Protarchus: Certainly.