Palladius said; 'When I tell you that He is true Son, I acknowledge also a true Godhead.'
Ambrose, Bishop, said; 'In this also there is evasion; for you art wont to speak of one only and true Godhead in such manner as to say that it is the divinity of the Father only, and not that of the Son also, which is one only and true. If then you wish to speak plainly, as you refer me to the Scriptures, say what the Evangelist John said; This is the true God, or deny that he hath said it.'
Palladius said; 'Besides the Son there is none other that is begotten.'
21. EUSEBIUS, Bishop, said; 'Is Christ very God, according to the faith of all and to the Catholic profession, or in your opinion is He not very God?'
Palladius said; 'He is the Power of our God.'
Ambrose, Bishop said; 'You do not speak frankly; and |41 so anathema to him who does not confess that the Son of God is very Lord.'
All the Bishops said; ' Let him be accounted anathema, who will not call Christ, the Son of God, very Lord.'
22. The reader continued; "Alone true, Who alone hath immortality."
Ambrose, Bishop, said; ' Has the Son of God immortality, or has He it not, in respect of His Godhead?'
Palladius said; ' Do you accept or no the words of the Apostle, The King of kings Who alone hath immortality?'
Ambrose, Bishop, said; 'What say you of Christ the Son of God?'
Palladius said; 'Is Christ a divine Name or a human?'
23. EUSEBIUS, Bishop, said; 'He is called Christ indeed according to the mystery of His Incarnation, but He is both God and Man.'
Palladius said; 'Christ is a name of the flesh: Christ is a man's name: do you answer me.'
Eusebius, Bishop, said; 'Why do you dwell upon useless topics? When Arms' impious words were read, who says of the Father that He alone hath immortality, you cited a testimony in confirmation of Arius' impiety, quoting from the Apostle, Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto. But if you understand it, he has expressed by the Name of God the dignity of the whole Nature, inasmuch as in the Name of God, both Father and Son are signified.'
Palladius said; 'You also have not chosen to answer what I have asked.'
24. AMBROSE, Bishop, said; 'I ask you to give your opinion plainly, has the Son of God immortality according to His divine generation, or has He not?'
Palladius said; 'In respect of His divine generation He is incorruptible; and by means of His Incarnation He died.'
Ambrose, Bishop, said; 'His divinity died not, but His flesh died.'
Palladius said; 'Do you answer me first.'
Ambrose, Bishop, said; ' Has the Son of God immortality in respect of His Godhead or has He it not? But have you not even now betrayed your fraudulent and insidious |42 meaning according to Arms' profession?' and he added; 'He who denies that the Son of God has immortality, what think you of him?' All the Bishops said; 'Let him be accounted anathema.'
25. PALLADIUS said; 'A divine offspring is immortal.'
Ambrose, Bishop, said; 'This also have you said evasively, to avoid expressing anything clearly about the Son of God. I say to you, the Son hath immortality in respect of His Godhead, or do you deny it and say that He has not.'
Palladius said; 'Did Christ die or not?'
Ambrose, Bishop, said; ' In respect of the flesh He did: our soul does not die: for it is written, Fear not them who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; seeing then that our soul cannot die, do you think Christ died in respect of His Godhead?'